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jill kelly went to this local tampa field office of the fbi because she knew an fbi agent there. that's how she got the contact and got the ball rolling. that agent then referred the case to a cyber crime unit and they took over the investigation. so the photo was sent before this investigation ever started. but at some point his bosses down at the fbi felt that this initial agent was still too obsessed or too consumed by the case and they ordered him off it this summer. >> chris lawrence at the pentagon, thank you so much for clearing up what we can. i have the sense there will be a lot more to clear up in coming hours and days. >> let's keep digging. as for how the white house is responding, let's bring in brianna keeler. brianna, the president and congress have been scheduled this week to meet about the fiscal cliff. might these new details on the fbi investigation be a bit of a distraction for them? >> well, i would say certainly all of the discussion over this scandal takes up a lot of the oxygen in the news cycle, for sure. the fiscal cliff is going to continue to be a prio
jill kelly went to this local tampa field office of the fbi because she knew an fbi agent there. that's how she got the contact and got the ball rolling. that agent then referred the case to a cyber crime unit and they took over the investigation. so the photo was sent before this investigation ever started. but at some point his bosses down at the fbi felt that this initial agent was still too obsessed or too consumed by the case and they ordered him off it this summer. >> chris lawrence...
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and so, i think that again we have the fbi investigation. we're going to have, i'm sure, the intelligence committee involved in this. i heard senator feinstein talking about her plans, so i think that we will get to the bottom of this. and i think what will probably happen in the end is that we'll figure out what went wrong here. and it will be one of those critical moments where we have to correct our course, whatever mistakes may have been made. if any. but i do believe that this is a critical moment for our military. >> congressman elijah cummings joining us. ranking member of the house oversight committee. nice to see you, sir. thank you for your time this morning. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> still ahead, a starting point, he resigned after a sex scandal of his own. former new jersey governor jim mcgreevey is going to join us to talk about sort of the fallout and how people deal with the fallout. that's straight ahead. stay with us. one. two. three. my credit card rewards are easy to remember. with the bankamericard cash rewards
and so, i think that again we have the fbi investigation. we're going to have, i'm sure, the intelligence committee involved in this. i heard senator feinstein talking about her plans, so i think that we will get to the bottom of this. and i think what will probably happen in the end is that we'll figure out what went wrong here. and it will be one of those critical moments where we have to correct our course, whatever mistakes may have been made. if any. but i do believe that this is a...
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did it contribute to releasing the fbi investigation about his affair? we just don't know now. >> suzanne what do you make of that? there is a lot of chatter about benghazi? >> i push back a little bit. i take a very cautious approach about the benghazi effort. the person sitting in the hot seat and will aanswer the questions will be mike morrow, and he's been very closely involved in the investigation from the beginning, putting together the cia's timeline and whatnot. the president, if he really needed a fall guy for benghazi, it would have happened before the election. someone to sort of say, i messed up. i don't think we've seen any strong evidence yet that the cia makes such fatal mistakes in benghazi, that someone had to take a fall like this. so significant, you really have to have a strong body of evidence to prove something like that. >> the question of the timing is really interesting. i just -- if this investigation has been going on for a long time and we don't know, but it's hard to believe that the administration, that the white house would
did it contribute to releasing the fbi investigation about his affair? we just don't know now. >> suzanne what do you make of that? there is a lot of chatter about benghazi? >> i push back a little bit. i take a very cautious approach about the benghazi effort. the person sitting in the hot seat and will aanswer the questions will be mike morrow, and he's been very closely involved in the investigation from the beginning, putting together the cia's timeline and whatnot. the...
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there's some pointed criticism being corrected at the fbi right now. >> that's right. this was a big topic of conversation on all the sunday shows here. a lot of forceful talk with members of congress on both sides. let's listen real quick to what new york representative peter king, a republican, had to say on "state of the union" this morning. >> the fbi director have the obligation to tell the president or the national security council at the earliest state. so it's been going on for several months, and now they are saying the fbi didn't realize until election day that general petraeus was involved. it just doesn't add up. >> so peter king, as you heard him say, he has a lot of questions. he wants to know when the investigation began and if they got a court order. a lot of questions from him. we also heard from diane feinstein who is the democrat who is the senate intelligence committee share. . she's going to investigate why they weren't notified earlier. they weren't informed until friday. so several days later. so a lot of questions and this is just the beginning
there's some pointed criticism being corrected at the fbi right now. >> that's right. this was a big topic of conversation on all the sunday shows here. a lot of forceful talk with members of congress on both sides. let's listen real quick to what new york representative peter king, a republican, had to say on "state of the union" this morning. >> the fbi director have the obligation to tell the president or the national security council at the earliest state. so it's been...
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>> and susan, you said we don't know how long the fbi was investigating. do we know the obama administration knew about this before the election? >> no, but wouldn't we all love to know the answer to that. that really is a burning question. it's just days after the election and something like this comes out. but clearly, something like this had been going on for a while. it wasn't -- you know, it's not likely that a couple days after the election, general petraeus had sort of a crisis of conscience and decided this is the time now for me to come clean on everything. which also makes you wonder, did other people know about this, and was there a possibility they could have used this against him or to blackmail him in any way? that would have spoken directly to his ability to hold a security clearance and protect those secrets as well, anderson, so lots of unanswered questions, but i'm told more will be coming out in the coming days. >> i guess oert questithe other did the administration, if they did know about it, decide not to let this be announced before t
>> and susan, you said we don't know how long the fbi was investigating. do we know the obama administration knew about this before the election? >> no, but wouldn't we all love to know the answer to that. that really is a burning question. it's just days after the election and something like this comes out. but clearly, something like this had been going on for a while. it wasn't -- you know, it's not likely that a couple days after the election, general petraeus had sort of a...
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the source tells us the fbi agent said, let me check it out. the fbi has been on the case since then, and now kelley finds herself in the middle of this drama. new tonight, we hear her voice for the first time in a 911 call to tampa police over the weekend. she called to complain about the people outside her house. listen. >> you know, i don't know if by any chance, because i'm an honorary council general so i have inviolability so they shouldn't be able to cross my property. i don't know if you want to get diplomatic protection involved as well because that's against the law. because that's against the law to cross my property. >> i'll let them know. >> honorary diplomatic council. jill kelley talking to tampa police asking for diplomatic protection. that's not something she should expect. we will dig into who miss kelley is in a moment. first i mentioned there's a lot of twists and turns and a lot of people with ties to this scandal. let's lay it out for you right now. retired general david petraeus resigned on friday after admitting an affai
the source tells us the fbi agent said, let me check it out. the fbi has been on the case since then, and now kelley finds herself in the middle of this drama. new tonight, we hear her voice for the first time in a 911 call to tampa police over the weekend. she called to complain about the people outside her house. listen. >> you know, i don't know if by any chance, because i'm an honorary council general so i have inviolability so they shouldn't be able to cross my property. i don't know...
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willinger says that's enough for the fbi to take it further. the fbi hasn't commented furtherer. an official says it was appropriate to investigate. >> does the fbi routinely investigate these harassing e-mails? >> the fbi is devoting more time these days to investigating cyber harassment cases, cyber stalking cases. he says they don't go after one on one cases that are less threatening, mildly threatening, which this appears to be. he says clearly there's something more here. he believes information about comings and goings that paula broadwell sent sparked the investigation and he said there were grounds to do that. >> brian, thanks very much. >>> if a top general has an affair, is it a crime under military law? the answer might be yes. is it time for a refresh you er course from the top down? more in the "the situation room." ♪ [ gordon ] for some this line is a convenience. how you doing today? i'm good thanks. how are you? i'm good. [ gordon ] but for others, it's all they can afford. every day nearly nine million older americans don't have enough to eat. anything else? no
willinger says that's enough for the fbi to take it further. the fbi hasn't commented furtherer. an official says it was appropriate to investigate. >> does the fbi routinely investigate these harassing e-mails? >> the fbi is devoting more time these days to investigating cyber harassment cases, cyber stalking cases. he says they don't go after one on one cases that are less threatening, mildly threatening, which this appears to be. he says clearly there's something more here. he...
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earlier i asked why would the fbi investigate cia e-mails. >> because the fbi has jurisdiction if someone uses the internet to threat another person, so that's where the investigation began. it was not against director petraeus. it was because threats were being received over the internet and since they're coming in to someone working at cia headquarters and particularly in the executive area, that prompted the fbi to go ahead and investigate the threat. >> okay, so the big concern here then, that an outsider could have access quite simply to sensitive information and intelligence. >> well, that's the concern, when it starts, but when you look into that, in the cia or fbi headquarters or any of the intel agencies, often you have dual computer systems to that you can receive outside e-mails because someone might send a complaint over the public internet service providers, and then of course you have the classified e-mail systems internally, and they're completely separate, but the fact that someone's receiving a threat at that level, they have to investigate and look at the nature of the t
earlier i asked why would the fbi investigate cia e-mails. >> because the fbi has jurisdiction if someone uses the internet to threat another person, so that's where the investigation began. it was not against director petraeus. it was because threats were being received over the internet and since they're coming in to someone working at cia headquarters and particularly in the executive area, that prompted the fbi to go ahead and investigate the threat. >> okay, so the big concern...
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why would the fbi be involved in this anyway? >> the fbi is supposed to investigate predicated federal crimes. and they don't know when they start an investigation precisely whether the evidence ultimately will show there was a crime. i don't know what they were told initially by this woman, or what they were told by anybody who was friendly with her who had the ear of somebody at the bureau. but with great respect, that's one of those subsidiary questions. it's an interesting if not then would this all have happened. that's sort of the cleopatra's nose theory. if she had an ugly nose, would history have been different. that's an interesting question to discuss but i don't think it's a fundamental one. >> this revelation that apparently the investigation was concluded four days before the election clearly somebody has decided, whoever that may be and i'm sure we'll find out in the forms of time, that the information should not be passed to the white house, although i share your concern about the white house's blanket denial they
why would the fbi be involved in this anyway? >> the fbi is supposed to investigate predicated federal crimes. and they don't know when they start an investigation precisely whether the evidence ultimately will show there was a crime. i don't know what they were told initially by this woman, or what they were told by anybody who was friendly with her who had the ear of somebody at the bureau. but with great respect, that's one of those subsidiary questions. it's an interesting if not then...
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fbi failure. the fbi investigated the petraeus affair beginning with fears the cia's director's e-mail had been hacked at the beginning of the summer. yet lawmakers and the president were not told about it for six months, until after the election. under growing pressure and criticism, the fbi will be testifying on its role in the scandal. they'll go behind closed doors with members of the house intelligence committee demanding to who knew what and when they knew it. suzanne kelly. what are lawmakers going to find out? >> well, they're going to have some meetings tomorrow on the hill that are going to come before hearings open thursday. and michael morell, acting director of the cia and sean joyce will be involved in these meetings. they'll be asked a lot of questions about what they knew about the petraeus investigation, when they knew it, and why they didn't come forward. a couple things at play here, erin. one is, keep in mind, the fbi itself has said very little about this case so far. publicly
fbi failure. the fbi investigated the petraeus affair beginning with fears the cia's director's e-mail had been hacked at the beginning of the summer. yet lawmakers and the president were not told about it for six months, until after the election. under growing pressure and criticism, the fbi will be testifying on its role in the scandal. they'll go behind closed doors with members of the house intelligence committee demanding to who knew what and when they knew it. suzanne kelly. what are...
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how shirtless photos from an fbi agent are now playing into this scandal. steve? >> put that one last, jim. since it is but clearly the least important. general john allen, u.s. commander in afghanistan, is not over there tonight. coincidencely, he is here in washington for hearings that had been scheduled tomorrow on what allen still hopes will be his next job. he is just in time for his reputation to be called into question. general john allen, u.s. commander in afghanistan, was on track to be nato commander until disclosure that he is under investigation by the pentagon. jill kelley, a socialite in tampa and general allen allegedly exchanged e-mails and documents suspected of being inappropriate. through a spokesman today, allen insisted there was no affair. kelley is the one whose complaints that she was getting harassing e-mails led the fbi to paula broadwell and the affair between broadwell and general david petraeus. unlike petraeus who has admitted inif i had sxelt resigned as director of the cia, allen got a vote of confidence today from president obama.
how shirtless photos from an fbi agent are now playing into this scandal. steve? >> put that one last, jim. since it is but clearly the least important. general john allen, u.s. commander in afghanistan, is not over there tonight. coincidencely, he is here in washington for hearings that had been scheduled tomorrow on what allen still hopes will be his next job. he is just in time for his reputation to be called into question. general john allen, u.s. commander in afghanistan, was on...
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what about all of that time while the fbi was looking into it? and maybe they had suspected there was a national security risk. why weren't we, the people who were supposed to have oversight in the intelligence community informed of that possibility? >> so many questions. more than answers and when you hear the word criminal, dana, of course, that gets a lot of people going. dana bash on capitol hill for us. dana, thank you very much. >>> many of the fbi protocols on reporting criminal investigations to the white house and others actually stem way back to the watergate scandal. an investigation back then uncovered abuses and mistakes and the justice department has since made changes. i have a cold... i took dayquil, but i still have a runny nose. [ male announcer ] dayquil doesn't treat that. huh? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus rushes relief to all your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your runny nose. [ sighs ] thank you! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! reminds me of our network before cdw virtualized it. how
what about all of that time while the fbi was looking into it? and maybe they had suspected there was a national security risk. why weren't we, the people who were supposed to have oversight in the intelligence community informed of that possibility? >> so many questions. more than answers and when you hear the word criminal, dana, of course, that gets a lot of people going. dana bash on capitol hill for us. dana, thank you very much. >>> many of the fbi protocols on reporting...
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i think really, too, the focus tomorrow is going to be on the fbi and the fbi's deputy director, sean joyce, is going to have some hearings. as you heard right at the top of the show, piers, members of congress are very upset that they weren't notified about this. was there a national security risk, if there was, they should have been notified. if there wasn't a national security risk, why did the fbi go to james clapper, the director of national intelligence, on the night of the election. so maybe the president will put some of those things to rest tomorrow. but the fbi really hasn't come out and said much at all so a lot of the information that's been coming out about this case has been through leaks and anonymous sources. >> i think the reason the fbi is not saying anything is because this is going to be deeply embarrassing when we get to the bottom of it. thank you both very much. >>> i want to turn to a member of general petraeus' inner circle, his former spokesman, colonel steve boylan. colonel, thank you for joining me. when did you last speak to david petraeus? >> i spoke with
i think really, too, the focus tomorrow is going to be on the fbi and the fbi's deputy director, sean joyce, is going to have some hearings. as you heard right at the top of the show, piers, members of congress are very upset that they weren't notified about this. was there a national security risk, if there was, they should have been notified. if there wasn't a national security risk, why did the fbi go to james clapper, the director of national intelligence, on the night of the election. so...
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but that's what it is. >> reporter: the fbi discovered petraeus' affair with her, while investigating claims from a second woman that broadwell was sending her second e-mails. that second woman has been identified as the 37-year-old woman who was the state department liaison to the military joint specialist command and a friend of petraeus'. >> we received no advanced notice. it was like a lightning bulb. >> reporter: they are the head of the senate committee, intending to hear holdings into why for several months that the fbi commit them in the dark about their investigation. >> this is something that could have had an affect on national security. and i think that we should have been told. >> tonight the friend of petraeus' who allegedly reported the threatening e- mails has been identified as the 37-year-old jill kelly of tampa, florida. so far, kelly has not commented about her role. bruce? >> thank you, matt. >>> and the man is dead following an early morning shooting in prince george's county. the killer is still out there. police are asking for your help in finding him. and the
but that's what it is. >> reporter: the fbi discovered petraeus' affair with her, while investigating claims from a second woman that broadwell was sending her second e-mails. that second woman has been identified as the 37-year-old woman who was the state department liaison to the military joint specialist command and a friend of petraeus'. >> we received no advanced notice. it was like a lightning bulb. >> reporter: they are the head of the senate committee, intending to...
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>> i refer you to the fbi. they have as i understand it, protocols in place for when they notify the legislative and executive branchs of the investigations. and you know, it is simply a fact that the white house was not aware of the situation regarding general patreaus until wednesday and the situation regarding general allen until friday. so, you know, the fbi's a place to guy in terms of explanation of the protocols they follow. i understand that is the answer that they will give, that there are protocols they follow that govern how they inform the various branchs of government of the investigations. >> do you think people think it's utterly bizarre, the day after the election and anger on capitol hill? the time, at least the appearance? >> look, all i can tell you is, when the white house was informed and i would let the relevant members of congress explain to you how and when they were informed. my understanding is there are protocols the fbi follows with regards to these notifications and i would refer yo
>> i refer you to the fbi. they have as i understand it, protocols in place for when they notify the legislative and executive branchs of the investigations. and you know, it is simply a fact that the white house was not aware of the situation regarding general patreaus until wednesday and the situation regarding general allen until friday. so, you know, the fbi's a place to guy in terms of explanation of the protocols they follow. i understand that is the answer that they will give, that...
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it's an fbi affair that's sounding alarms. the fbi was investigating some suspicious e-mails and found some e-mails between paula broadwell and david petraeus. broadwell is the woman who wrote his biography. the fbi looks to see whether his communications had been compromised, and they said they had not been. now, petraeus was interviewed by the fbi, but it's not clear if broadwell has been questioned and if she will be. a u.s. official said petraeus was never a target of an investigation and that a tip about an affair led to that probe. now, general petraeus was scheduled to testify next week about the attack on the u.s. consulate in libya. now what happens now that he's gone? suzanne kelly is in washington with that part of this big story. >> susan, as washington reels from the announcement not only that david petraeus is stepping down from the post, but also from the admission he was having an extramarital affair, a u.s. official has said the counter intelligence unit was investigating a tip that he was having an affair bec
it's an fbi affair that's sounding alarms. the fbi was investigating some suspicious e-mails and found some e-mails between paula broadwell and david petraeus. broadwell is the woman who wrote his biography. the fbi looks to see whether his communications had been compromised, and they said they had not been. now, petraeus was interviewed by the fbi, but it's not clear if broadwell has been questioned and if she will be. a u.s. official said petraeus was never a target of an investigation and...
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he was the one whoook that initial complaint and turned it over to the cyberunit at the fbi. we know from a coup of sources he's still on duty. he was not apparently happy with the way the investigation was going. but then you'll remember the sexy little nugget that came out earlier this week, that he had actually sent shirtless photographs of himself to jill kelley. well it will turns out after a couple of meetings yesterday, some representatives for the kelley family described that picture in a little more detail. now we can imagine what it looked like. he was on a shooting range. there were dummies there where they take aim at. he thought it might be funny to take his shirt off and stand among a lineup of dummies. it's not my idea of sexy. as we're finding out more details about the story and getting into the facts of it, it still is interesting, but maybe not quite as bad as everyone first thought. >> one of my sources close to that particular agent said he's a standup guy and never would have sent a sexy shirtless picture. so that does make a lot of sense. suzanne kelly,
he was the one whoook that initial complaint and turned it over to the cyberunit at the fbi. we know from a coup of sources he's still on duty. he was not apparently happy with the way the investigation was going. but then you'll remember the sexy little nugget that came out earlier this week, that he had actually sent shirtless photographs of himself to jill kelley. well it will turns out after a couple of meetings yesterday, some representatives for the kelley family described that picture in...
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now this fbi agent, launched the investigation. his relationship with jill kelly, the family friend being investigated. seeing this thing develop now on three different tiers. >>> general allen says he disputes there is any wrongdoing. that he is, he has done anything wrong. and they're not trying, right now at this point not speculating as to what the relationship with jill kelly was. we are not going to speculate it either. >> no, no. see what the e-mails contain. 30,000 e-mails we will see. >> some of them inappropriate. >> allegedly. >> the search is on for a tech pioneer, john mcafee, mcafee lives in belize where his next door neighbor has been found shot to death. police there call 67-year-old mcafee a person of interest in this case. a number of people, describe his recent behavior as eccentric. >>> five family members including three children have been found dead inside a toledo, ohio garage. police say it looks like a murder suicide. all five died of carbon monoxide poisoning from truck exhaust piped in through hoses. poli
now this fbi agent, launched the investigation. his relationship with jill kelly, the family friend being investigated. seeing this thing develop now on three different tiers. >>> general allen says he disputes there is any wrongdoing. that he is, he has done anything wrong. and they're not trying, right now at this point not speculating as to what the relationship with jill kelly was. we are not going to speculate it either. >> no, no. see what the e-mails contain. 30,000...
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was not passed to the head of the fbi for four days t took four days to find the head of the fbi, i don't know why, and the fbi is saying the reason why they can't get information promptly to the director is because hurricane sandy delayed the message. figure on that one. the fbi may be at her house tonight but they have been dragging their feet trying to move this. >> well, i think there's still a lot of questions that are to be answered as to the timeline, why certain things were done when. i think that's one of the big outstanding questions. but, you know, a lot of it gets back to the very beginning, which is the question i've heard a lot from folks of that just been reading our stories is why did the fbi start this investigation anyway? i get weird or annoying e-mails all the time and i don't run to the fbi and if i did i don't know that the fbi would do anything about it. that's another reason there's some i think gaps that need to be explained as to how this process began and where it ended up. >> of course, you have to go back to the fact there are four americans mured in the
was not passed to the head of the fbi for four days t took four days to find the head of the fbi, i don't know why, and the fbi is saying the reason why they can't get information promptly to the director is because hurricane sandy delayed the message. figure on that one. the fbi may be at her house tonight but they have been dragging their feet trying to move this. >> well, i think there's still a lot of questions that are to be answered as to the timeline, why certain things were done...
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i'm sorry. >> the fbi -- >> no. the fact is based on what we know now, there was no harassment concluded and nothing threatening. no one said the e-mails were threatening. i said -- i think what the point david is trying to make and a legitimate question, who was the underlying predicate that the fbi had with the citizen got an e-mail to open up the preliminary inquiry? i don't think it's clear and becomes not about the threat or the harassment, whatever you want to call this thing related to kelly, this becomes the fbi's cyber division is concerned that petraeus's private e-mail is hacked in to. that's why they continue this and the crime they're looking at. this is a red herring about harassment of jill kelly, a private citizen and a social liaison. ludicrous. that's not a predicate. >> do you think they overstepped that? >> go ahead, tom. >> determination would be made that, you know, what's the content of these messages? they would take that to the u.s. attorney's office and determine whether or not this might b
i'm sorry. >> the fbi -- >> no. the fact is based on what we know now, there was no harassment concluded and nothing threatening. no one said the e-mails were threatening. i said -- i think what the point david is trying to make and a legitimate question, who was the underlying predicate that the fbi had with the citizen got an e-mail to open up the preliminary inquiry? i don't think it's clear and becomes not about the threat or the harassment, whatever you want to call this thing...
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he's written books about both the cia and the fbi. do you believe the rivalry between the fbi and cia played any sort of a role in the petraeus downfall? >> well, cia does have a right to be furious and there is a scandal here but it is not about sex. adultery is not a federal crime. the scandal is that a single rogue fbi agent appears to have taken it upon himself to leak the raw reporting in this case to a member of congress. that's not how the game is played. that is a dirty business. >> you're talking about the agent that was contacted initially and wasn't part of the fbi investigation, but had some knowledge because he was the one that passed it on to his superiors, he then apparently went to someone who went to eric cantor, and that sort of started the ball rolling. that's not how this came out. is he really a major player in all of this? >> i think he should be and i think he will be. because that is dishonorable conduct. the fbi and the cia spent the second half of the 20th century at war with one another and their feuding was
he's written books about both the cia and the fbi. do you believe the rivalry between the fbi and cia played any sort of a role in the petraeus downfall? >> well, cia does have a right to be furious and there is a scandal here but it is not about sex. adultery is not a federal crime. the scandal is that a single rogue fbi agent appears to have taken it upon himself to leak the raw reporting in this case to a member of congress. that's not how the game is played. that is a dirty business....
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the fbi isn't commenting on its investigation. but cnn has new information from tom fuentes who spoke to sources with knowledge of the probe. he says after kelley complained to an fbi agent about the harassing e-mails, agents from the bureau's cyber crime unit got a subpoena and got the internet service provider to give them information on who owned the account of the sender. >> what's the internet address they are being transmitted by. >> reporter: that likely would have been more than one internet address. news reports say paula broadwell, now known as the person sending harassing e-mails to kelley believed to send them from various places. depending on where the computer was plugged in, the sender would have different ip addresses. an expert on internet monitoring explains what the fbi likely did next. >> so what they did is they determined that she logged into this e-mail account from hotels around the country. and so they contacted the hotels and got the guest lists, the names of people who were staying at the hotels on those
the fbi isn't commenting on its investigation. but cnn has new information from tom fuentes who spoke to sources with knowledge of the probe. he says after kelley complained to an fbi agent about the harassing e-mails, agents from the bureau's cyber crime unit got a subpoena and got the internet service provider to give them information on who owned the account of the sender. >> what's the internet address they are being transmitted by. >> reporter: that likely would have been more...
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worked with the fbi who knew. i don't think the director of the fbi knew until mid-october or perhaps even later. and certainly the justice -- it's unclear when the justice department was informed. but it is fairly remarkable that in a situation like this that the president and the white house would not be told until, you know, right before his resignation. and certainly i think the mistake that was made was that congress ought to be informed at the same time that the senior people on the national security establishment are told. >> right. particularly when you're talking about the cia director. this is not a low-level resignation we're talking about. or a scandal involving a low-level member of the administration. having said that, richard and oliver, i want to get to you, because the justice points out that it followed protocol. that there was no national security breach as far as they know and there was no criminal wrongdoing because petraeus was a retired general. having said that, congressman peter king spoke
worked with the fbi who knew. i don't think the director of the fbi knew until mid-october or perhaps even later. and certainly the justice -- it's unclear when the justice department was informed. but it is fairly remarkable that in a situation like this that the president and the white house would not be told until, you know, right before his resignation. and certainly i think the mistake that was made was that congress ought to be informed at the same time that the senior people on the...
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the fbi said those didn't come from petraeus. or did petraeus compromise himself by putting himself out there in a situation where he could be blackmailed. i don't know. those that do know, director of national security james clapper, dan feinstein who's on the national security committee. although she found out late, they've all looked at it and said, yes, this is a situation where petraeus should have resigned. it seems to be among those that have the details that are necessary the conclusion you have to reach. >> former cia guy robert baer says there has to be something more to this than just a sexual affair, l.z. especially in light of the benghazi hearings coming up. what do you make of that? >> i think general petraeus definitely needs to testify if for no other reason than to add some more validation to the fact that he felt he resigned because it was the honorable thing to do because of the extramarital affair. if he does not testify, it makes it look shady. that adds to me a greater blemish to his legacy than resigning b
the fbi said those didn't come from petraeus. or did petraeus compromise himself by putting himself out there in a situation where he could be blackmailed. i don't know. those that do know, director of national security james clapper, dan feinstein who's on the national security committee. although she found out late, they've all looked at it and said, yes, this is a situation where petraeus should have resigned. it seems to be among those that have the details that are necessary the conclusion...
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new details tonight about a second woman that led to the fbi investigation. >>> veterans day commemorations across the country. how thousands in our area honored members of the armed forces today. >>> and good evening, everyone. i'm jim rosenfield. there were events all over the d.c. area today to honor our war heroes. the president began the day laying a wreath at the tomb of the unknown solder in arlington. he thanked all military members for their service and said their contributions would not be forgotten. derek ward has a look at some of the other ways the area paid tribute to our veterans today. >> reporter: wheelchairs lined up with military precision awaiting this morning muster, a solemn wreath laying ceremony at the wreath laying ceremony on a day we pause to give them thanks. >> i really appreciate them doing this for us. >> on behalf of the boy scouts of america, i present this flag. >> reporter: older veterans would like be proud of this scouts biking to all the veterans memorial sites offer their gifts of gratitude. of course, one of the stops was here at the african-american
new details tonight about a second woman that led to the fbi investigation. >>> veterans day commemorations across the country. how thousands in our area honored members of the armed forces today. >>> and good evening, everyone. i'm jim rosenfield. there were events all over the d.c. area today to honor our war heroes. the president began the day laying a wreath at the tomb of the unknown solder in arlington. he thanked all military members for their service and said their...
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e-mail bs by the fbi. she meets him when she attends a program where they learn how the fbi works. he does a briefing there. she chats him afterwards. when this happens, and this is much later, she contacts him and says i have this problem, can you get me to the right person. he brings her to the cyber squad. >> quick question again on paula broadwell. we've been led to believe that the fbi thinks there's nothing wrong, she had no classified documents. but last night, the fbi spent four hours at her house in north carolina pulling boxes out of her house. they said searching for additional information. does that suggest, do they think this is not over? >> as we reported yesterday, she did have classified documents, but she's also a major in the army reserve. she's got a security clearance. the question is how were those documents obtained and how were they stored? so they tidied up the search yesterday. they got a consensual search warrant. so they're looking for any other loose ends there. >> john miller,
e-mail bs by the fbi. she meets him when she attends a program where they learn how the fbi works. he does a briefing there. she chats him afterwards. when this happens, and this is much later, she contacts him and says i have this problem, can you get me to the right person. he brings her to the cyber squad. >> quick question again on paula broadwell. we've been led to believe that the fbi thinks there's nothing wrong, she had no classified documents. but last night, the fbi spent four...
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john miller former assistant mer fbi as fbi director joins us here. good morning again. >> >> good morning. >> so why was this fbi agent that knew joe kelley thrown off >> the case or was he? well, >> okay.teresting. that's interesting. he was never on the case. agent but he is the agent who brings into the the case into the office.l he knows jill kelley. citizens she's attended the fbi citizen's so w academy. he gave a presentation, gave her a card. they stay in touch. when she gets the e-mail she says i want to see who is uad. bringing these to these things. the he brings to it the cyber squad. they said, gee, there's no threat here but if it's a friend i of yours, we can open a case.s saying here is what's happening after t that, he's saying what's the they update, what's the update. they say it may involve not petraeus. y at some point they say we're not inform giving you anymore. this information seems to be funneling back to jill kelley. kell so he's cut out of the case not thrown off the case. >> that's the irony of this she whole thing. she st
john miller former assistant mer fbi as fbi director joins us here. good morning again. >> >> good morning. >> so why was this fbi agent that knew joe kelley thrown off >> the case or was he? well, >> okay.teresting. that's interesting. he was never on the case. agent but he is the agent who brings into the the case into the office.l he knows jill kelley. citizens she's attended the fbi citizen's so w academy. he gave a presentation, gave her a card. they stay in...
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many, many fbi agents are still at this house collecting evidence. we saw them this morning going through the house and into the backyard. we are going continue to follow this story here on news 4. back to you. >> thank you, tony. >>> right now, lawmakers are getting more answers about september's deadly attacks on the u.s. kons late. the house committee is holding a hearing about the attacks that killed four americans including u.s. ambassador chris stevens. the director of national intelligence is there. tomorrow morning, former cia director, david petraeus will testify before the same house committee. it's unclear, until yesterday, it was unclear whether he would face questions about his sudden resignation last week. we are told he will not have a discuss the sex scandal that cost him his position. >>> you are looking at the newest members of congress. the freshman class posed on the steps of the capital. it's made up of 80 members of the house. the lawmakers will have to hit the ground running. they will help reach a budget deal to avoid the so-c
many, many fbi agents are still at this house collecting evidence. we saw them this morning going through the house and into the backyard. we are going continue to follow this story here on news 4. back to you. >> thank you, tony. >>> right now, lawmakers are getting more answers about september's deadly attacks on the u.s. kons late. the house committee is holding a hearing about the attacks that killed four americans including u.s. ambassador chris stevens. the director of...
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something like that should not and would not rise to an fbi probe? >> it's a great question, and what we found out was the way he was being described was really inaccurate. people had initially reported and republican leaders had described him as a whistleblower who came forward, complaining to cantor, house majority leader cantor's office because he was worried the fbi investigation that uncovered an affair by the cia director david petraeus was stalled for political reasons. it was implied he was concerned about the progress of this case and worried about it being shelved improperly. what we found in our reporting is sources very close to humphries and aware of his account, briefed on his information, tell us quite a different story about the agent. he's a tampa agent who had a long-standing sort of social acquaintance with jill kelley, the woman in tampa. he basically forwarded some information to his tampa fbi colleagues about harassing e-mails that were more interesting than everyday harassing e-mails because they mentioned a four-star general.
something like that should not and would not rise to an fbi probe? >> it's a great question, and what we found out was the way he was being described was really inaccurate. people had initially reported and republican leaders had described him as a whistleblower who came forward, complaining to cantor, house majority leader cantor's office because he was worried the fbi investigation that uncovered an affair by the cia director david petraeus was stalled for political reasons. it was...